?

Log in

No account? Create an account
 
 
10 December 2007 @ 04:49 pm
 
Here's a cute pixel.
Feel free to use it to take away the stigma and show celebration and support. I want women to see it as a bright thing that have support for!
 
 
 
Abbieabbierose on December 14th, 2007 03:16 am (UTC)
dude, do we get cute pixels for all medical procedures? I had a mammogram, I'd like it to be a bright thing and for everyone to celebrate it.

Oh, and one for the removal of my wisdom teeth would be good too, and .....this maybe stretching it, but maybe one for overdoses? I know plenty of people who've overdosed, I'm sure they'ed love a bright shiny pixel thing and some support for that!

♥³billie_jean on December 14th, 2007 03:20 am (UTC)
I can make one for a chill pill if you'd like.
Abbieabbierose on December 14th, 2007 03:24 am (UTC)
really? I'd totally love that....I'd prefer the wisdom teeth one though if you're going to use your valuable time and creativity...
Amandaminthoney on December 14th, 2007 04:41 am (UTC)
ooooooh
electric misfit love machineeyelid on December 19th, 2007 11:58 pm (UTC)
do we get cute pixels for all medical procedures?

Well, not many medical procedures usually subject a woman to societal stigma.
Abbieabbierose on December 20th, 2007 12:45 am (UTC)
ok maybe one for plastic surgery - boob jobs, nose jobs, lipo?
electric misfit love machineeyelid on December 20th, 2007 01:02 am (UTC)
I think there's a pretty significant difference between a boob job and an abortion, myself. I mean, for instance, no one is fighting to take away anyone's right to have a boob job.

I think you are reaching a bit here in your comparisons, as to me, abortion is clearly different in how it is treated by society than any other kind of surgery. The idea of celebrating one's abortion may seem unorthodox, but some people do find their abortions empowering. And given how much struggle there is to secure this basic right, how much women are encouraged to hide it and be ashamed of it, I can see why the OP wanted to create something to change the perception of abortion.
Abbieabbierose on December 20th, 2007 01:29 am (UTC)
some women feel abortions are empowering, ok - some people find spanking their children empowering too, and spanking is very greatly looked down on by society...how about glitter graphics for that?

Also, elective surgery of any kind is looked down on in society - depending where you are. LA - sure, plastic surgery will be just as "normal" as getting a hair cut, but so will abortions. Take the same scenario and bring it to Iowa, and in both instances the woman will be put down for what she has chosen to do. Health insurance won't cover elective surgeries either. Some won't even cover surgeries that are obviously going to improve quality of life - say like- gastric bypass, or - after gastric bypass -- the tummy tuck most patients would need.
While we're on gastric bypass - another thing that is greatly shamed upon by society - obesity. Some people are empowered by their "curvy" bodies.

You can't either empower yourself for getting an abortion one minute, and play the martyr card with it the next - is it a good thing, or isn't it? I realize it's a matter of opinion, and that's fine - but a bit of consistency would be good.

There's a list a mile long of things that are considered social stigma's, just because you, or certain people may feel more strongly about the abortion issue, doesn't mean it's in some way worse, or that you are suffering more than someone who is put down because of their choices as far as elective surgery, obesity, drug addiction, etc.

Sure - I started out sarcastic w/ the wisdom teeth bit, but if you really want to compare apples and oranges, I'm ready.
electric misfit love machineeyelid on December 20th, 2007 01:55 am (UTC)
some women feel abortions are empowering, ok - some people find spanking their children empowering too, and spanking is very greatly looked down on by society...how about glitter graphics for that?

I don't think spanking is looked down on in "society." Depends on where you are. But that aside, I don't think beating another person and getting an abortion are comparable either. This is a false cognate.


Also, elective surgery of any kind is looked down on in society - depending where you are.

I can't agree with that. e.g., tubal ligation is not looked down on, nor is elective removal of wisdom teeth, nor is getting a wart removed, etc., etc. It really depends on the procedure.


Health insurance won't cover elective surgeries either.

Sometimes they will. My abortion was covered by insurance.


You can't either empower yourself for getting an abortion one minute, and play the martyr card with it the next

I don't see the OP doing that.


just because you, or certain people may feel more strongly about the abortion issue, doesn't mean it's in some way worse,

I think abortion is clearly far different in our society from other procedures. There is no other procedure that is a huge issue in the upcoming election. There is no other procedure that will define peoples' votes or that is picketed at clinics or that is subject to extra strict guidelines or that governments have mandated you must be given special "information" about beforehand. No random person on the street will call you a murderer for having gastric bypass surgery.
Abbieabbierose on December 20th, 2007 02:21 am (UTC)
I don't think spanking is looked down on in "society."

then try going to parenting community, and making a post about spanking your child. Just because you're not involved in that culture, doesn't mean it's not an issue. Hell, tell them that you formula fed your child too, and wait for the flames to begin.
And you've already showed your biased against it, just in your simple statement. I could argue that spanking isn't "beating another person" - just like you can argue that abortion isn't murder. I may think you're wrong, you may think I'm wrong, but - just in your reply you've proved my point.

you're right - wisdom teeth removal, wart removal, etc - not looked down on. I was aiming that comment more at the "Dr. 90210" array of surgeries - cosmetic stuff. Boob jobs, nose jobs, lipo, tummy tucks, vaginoplasty - hell, even sex change operations. Same with the health care info, I meant to write "Some health insurance won't cover...." it all depends on your coverage. From what I understand, you're pretty lucky to have had your abortion covered by your insurance, without it being a life threat to yourself.

If you narrow the abortion issue down to a procedure, than that is the only *procedure* that is a huge issue in the upcoming election. And no, people aren't out picketing gay marriage or guns at clinics, but you're really narrowing the issue with saying "no other procedure" and "picketed at clinics" and sure - nobody is going to call an obese person a murderer on the street, but I'm sure they'll have plenty of other choice words. Nobody is going to call a mother, who is disciplining her child a murderer, but they'll tell her she's doing the wrong thing. Nobody's going to tell a new mom buying formula that she's a murderer (well, some hardcore *boob nazi's* may take it that far) but they'll tell her she's a bad, stupid mother.

ex_mrflagg on December 14th, 2007 04:11 am (UTC)
this makes as much sense as the gold pills i saw early that make your pooh sparkle
navigating by the stars at night: pic#69241591latenightdrives on December 14th, 2007 04:15 am (UTC)
WHAT! LINK PLS.
Abbieabbierose on December 14th, 2007 05:24 am (UTC)
I'd like a glitter graphic for my glitter pooh, that would be fantastic. Either a glitter graphic, or a bunch of colorful pictures that read "love is glitter poop"
A shemaleshemale on December 14th, 2007 05:58 am (UTC)
x2

Actually I'd prefer a glittery bunny with a glittery bushel of heart-emitting poop who taking them out and putting them onto a conveyor belt to nowhere that's about as long as the row of abortion blocks above.
(Anonymous) on December 19th, 2007 04:14 pm (UTC)
Thanks for this. I know some others might find this approach weird, but for women who see their abortions as positive things, it is good to have, both to see that other people support them and to show support themselves.

Best wishes.